VTube-LASER Tangent-point Envelope Tolerances
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Qualifying tube shapes with tangent-point envelopes has been a tube-fabrication standard for decades.
The tangent-point envelope tolerance method is effective for qualifying a tube's surface profile at the ends of each straight section. It has been used as the industry standard for decades. The tolerance zone is like a WALL THICKNESS that extends beyond the tube's straight outer wall.
The GD&T surface profile method will produce similar outcomes in qualification to the tangent-point method, but the envelopes or zones in GD&T are for the DIAMETER of the zone. So it is necessary to double the tangent-point tolerance values to achieve the same tolerance in GD&T. Newer versions of VTube-LASER let you choose between tangent-point and GD&T terminology. (The values for this qualification method are half of a GD&T DIAMETER POSITION TOLERANCE.)
Why are Tangent Points Important in Qualifying Tube Shapes?
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Centerline tangent-point deviations are important because they represent the best set of points along the centerline to qualify the shape of a tube.
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COMPARE XYZ Tangent-point Deviations to XYZ Intersection Point DeviationsCenterline XYZ intersection points (not the same as centerline XYZ tangent points) are sometimes used for tube shape qualification. However, intersection points are not a good choice for tube-shape qualification because:
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A Visual Example of the Problem With Using Intersection Points for Qualification
See these two images to help understand the problem with using intersection points for qualification. |
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However, the intersection points are separated by 0.332 inches.
Therefore, intersection deviations do not act as a good representative of the actual surface profile deviation. (It is possible to overqualify a part using them.) |
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Tangent-point Deviations in the Inspection Data Grid
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The Tangent chart is represented by a grid of straights for each row with tangent points and midpoints for each straight:
Note that the two endpoints are also included in the tangent charts and reports (T1d in straight 1, and T2d in the last straight). They are an exception to the technical tangent definition given above because there is no bend attached to these points. But these points still have value in determining if the part is the correct shape, so it is convenient to include them in this chart and grid - even though they are not really tangents.
Midpoint deviations are always less than the highest corresponding tangent deviation, and higher than the lowest corresponding tangent deviation. They are included in traditional reports so that you can have three separate deviation tolerances in a straight. (T1-MP-T2) |
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The Same Data In Reports
| The same tangent data can be shown in the reports like this. Some customers prefer to modify the report to show only data for the attributes that qualify the part. For example, they may remove the midpoints or the end angles from the reports(which can be done by changing the report templates). (For those with active VTube Software Maintenance Plans: We will help you modify the report templates if requested.) |
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How to Understand the Tangent Data
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The image on the right shows the visual representation of the chart and report above. The deviations in the grid match the part in the image. The part is made transparent so that you can see the two centerlines inside the tube. (It's easy to make parts transparent by setting the transparency value to about 0.75 inside the Parametric Tube control menu under Models.)
The image below shows how the distance T1d is measured in the second straight:
![]() In this case, the T1d value is 0.9mm for straight 2.
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About Endpoint Deviations
Automatic Internal Trimming of Endpoints for Shape
| Even though the endpoints are not tangents, we can still use them in the chart because they qualify the part the same way that tangent points do. A key in understanding the T1d of the first straight and the T2d of the last straight is to remember that the deviation is not the same as how long or short the straights are relative to the master tube shape. See the illustration on the right to understand why. The MASTER to MEASURED endpoint deviation in the Tangent grid is 1.9mm. The measurement is the distance between the two lines at the corresponding endpoints - as if the MEASURED WERE TRIMMED. (The Measured part is the pink part. The Master part is white.) |
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Untrimmed Endpoints for Lengths
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However, the end length is 90.2mm too long. In this application, the customer bent the part 90mm too long on purpose in order to give the bend arm clamp die enough material on the first straight to grip.
Notice that, even though the part is significantly too long, the BEST FIT algorithm didn't use the actual measured endpoint in the alignment. The alignment was based on the trimmed point on the measured centerline that was nearest the master endpoint.
So, in this case the part shape in space is qualified - but it needs trimming by 90.2mm to also qualify the end length (another critical qualifier). |
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Typical Industry Tangent-point Envelope Tolerances
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In working with thousands of customers over the past few decades, we've seen trends in the envelope deviation tolerances accepted. Note 1: These tangent-point tolerances assume BEST FIT alignments, and not alignments where any straight is given priority - like with Precision Weight Control. Precision Weight Control allows the alignment to be locked to a single section of the tube. When using PWC alignments like this, you often need to double the envelope tolerance in other sections of the tube.
Note 2: GD&T tube profile tolerances are always double the VTube-LASER tangent-point envelope tolerances. So, a GD&T profile tolerance of 3 mm is equivalent to VTube-LASER's 1.5 mm envelope tolerance. All tolerances shown below are half the GD&T profile tolerances.
Here are what we commonly see and recommend for tangent-point tolerances: Aerospace and Automotive Fluid Lines
Automotive Exhaust Pipes
Automotive Fluid Lines
Shipbuilding
HVAC
Structural Tubes (Frames)
Conduit
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GD&T and VTube-LASER Tolerance Envelopes
| See "Understanding GD&T Tube Profile Tolerances Using VTube-LASER Tolerance Envelopes" to see how GD&T relates to VTube-LASER Tolerance |
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